Baldwin locomotives

Be careful when buying US steam locomotives and Baldwin locomotives:

Recently repainted or repainted locomotives have been sold on eBay. There is a risk that these will be offered again by someone else. You are welcome to contact me if you are unsure whether you have bought a repainted model.

1. Historical role model

After the Allied invasion in 1944, the USA delivered type VO 660 diesel-electric locomotives from MW Baldwin & Co., Philadelphia, to various European railroad administrations.

The manufacturer marked the machines with DSR VO 660. DSR stands for Diesel Road Switcher, which means that the locomotives could be used both as shunting and mainline locomotives.
Baldwin was known for the reliability of their machines.

2. Models

Fleischmann built these models in different color variants from 1954-1963/64.

These models of the 1340 series are some of Fleischmann’s most sought-after locomotives.

All models of the Baldwin locomotives have a zinc die-cast housing, which is made of 2 parts: 1. The frame with driver’s cab and circuits and 2. the hood.
2 bogies with 2 axles each are mounted in the frame. The rear bogie carries the engine. The two axles of the motor bogie are driven.

The locomotive number „1340“ is cast on both sides of the driver’s cab.

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3.1. 1340 p

Fleischmann presented the first Baldwin locomotive in the 1955 new items catalogue: the black 1340S. Designated only „1340“ in the 1955 catalog, the designation in the 1956 catalog is „1340S“

The housing of the locomotive is painted matt black, there is a silver stripe on the chassis perimeter.

The model for the color scheme is the Pennsylvania RR.

On the photo in the 1955 catalog and even later, the locomotive number „2207“ is on the driver’s cab. The locomotive was never built with this number, but always with „1340“. The locomotive was never marked „AT&S.F.“ as can be seen on the 1955 news sheet, delivered by Fleischmann.

The 1340S is common and priced the same as the 1340A.

 

3.1.1 Distinctive Features

There are a number of variants of the Baldwin locomotives, as well as of the other models of the 1950s, which arose from the company’s not always traceable production steps.

These variants were created by using certain individual parts from which the locomotives were assembled:

3.1.1.1 Screws used to fasten the bogies in the lower part of the body:


3.1.1.2  Laufdrehgestelle:
In the very first models produced, normal screws with a mushroom head were used (picture on the left), later screws with a cylindrical head.

The surfaces of the first bogies were unmarked, later the lettering „Fleischmann-Made in Western Germany“ was cast:

3.1.1.3 Tank types:

The early models had a straight tank with various inscriptions stamped on it:

Since there were difficulties with these locomotives when driving on the points 1626BA, the locomotives got stuck on the motor box of the points, the tanks were milled out on one side:

From around 1955, one wall of the tank imitation was bevelled, the tanks are available with and without a stamp:

3.1.1.4 Lower housing parts

There are 2 types due to different coupling mounts:

3.1.1.4.1  One drill hole at the front and one at the back for holding the clutch retaining bolts:


3.1.1.4.2  Apparently it turned out in practice that the wagons were partly coupled too tightly, which could lead to derailments. Therefore, 2 holes were then drilled for the clutch mount:

3.1.1.5  Coupling holder

In the housing with 1 drill hole, the coupling holders consisted of the well-known rail clearers:

holder1

This bracket was used for the housings with 2 drill holes:

A new straightening spring was developed for this bracket:

 3.1.2 Variants

By using the components described above, a large number of variants could certainly be described, but I will limit myself to the following, as this includes all important changes together:

 

catalog no.Construction yeardescription
1340S-11955Version with  a straight  tank  without milling . hole  for coupler pocket, bogie screws with thick heads, bogies without lettering (A8/5)
1340S-219552 holes for coupler mounts
1340S-31955-56Straight tank with cutout ; Small Head Screws(8/6)
1340S-41955-56Sloping  tank. (A8/5; 13/6)
1340S-4.1 Both bogies labeled.
1340S-1
1340S
1955 novelty list with 1340S
Train set 1340/2 from 1955
Train set 1340/5G from 1955

3.2. 1340G

In 1955 Fleischmann produced the first color variant of the 1340: the 1340G

The locomotive is painted light green/dark green like the Northern Pacific Pulman cars made for Pennline in 1955. In contrast to the 1340S, which has a matt finish, the 1340G has a glossy finish.

The locomotive was only offered in the 1955 and 1956 catalogs and is relatively rare to find. I am not aware of any variants. Stamp: A8/5; 13/6

From the 1956 catalogue

1340G

f1340Gbox

Rare packaging for the 1340G

Caution: Repainted models were offered on Ebay. If you bought there, you should contact me.

3.3. 1340A

In the 1957 catalog the 1340A is offered in green/yellow livery for the first time.

Driver’s cab and the upper part of the engine housing are painted green, the lower part of the engine housing is painted yellow.
The coloring corresponds to the model of the Chicago & Northwestern (C&NW) Railway.

The locomotive was built from 1957-1967. Due to this relatively long construction period, there are various variants.

variants

catalog no.Construction yeardescription
1340A-1a1957-58glossy finish ,  nickel- plated  grab bars on the FH door and bonnet, green exhaust pipe, „1340“  designed in yellow (12/7; 13/7, 10/8; 14/8;)
1340A-1b1959-61with mushroom head  (15/9; 7/1)
1340A-1c1961-black  handlebars
1340A-1d-1965matte finish,  green exhaust, handrails only on stairs (7/5; 46/5)
1340A-1e1965Handle bar only on FH door  (7/5)
1340A-1f without handlebars  (manufacturing error?)
1340A-2a1957„1340“ silver,  handrails only on stairs (8/7)
1340A-2b-1967Handle bars on stairs and FH door, exhaust burnished  (8/7)
1340A-3a1957-59„Route of the 400“ decals  on cab  and hood, straight cab decal,  grab bars on cab door
1340A-3b1959-62with  switch mushroom , handle bars only on driver’s cab stairs (1/1; 1/2)
1340A-3c-1962/63Cab decal sloping  (1/1; 1/2)

1340A-1
1340A-1C
1340A-2a
1340A-3a
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Straight stickerSkew sticker

3.4. 1340R

The red 1340R also appeared in 1957.

Fleischmann describes the color in the German catalog as „bordeaux red“. In the US catalogue, Fleischmann writes:
„Export model as used by Dutch Railroads“ and thus refers to the Dutch railways as a model.
However, a different model was later made for Holland.

It is possible that the locomotives were painted in the original colors of Luxembourg locomotives. There should be a flyer announcing this loco for Luxembourg in the same way as the pre-announcement of the 1385L.

Im Mikado ist eine braunrote Variante aufgeführt. Ich habe Zweifel, ob es diese Variante gab, ich habe zumindest noch keine dieser Loks gesehen, die eindeutig in der Farbe nach „braun“ tendiert. Möglich, dass es nur Varianten einer Lackcharge und nicht unterschiedliche Farben sind.

Varianten

Katalog-Nr.BaujahrBeschreibung
1340R-1a1957hellrot (weinrot) lackiert, vernickelte Griffstangen an der Motorhaube, „1340“ gelb ausgelegt. (17/7)
1340R-1b1957-1958bordeauxrot ( 13/7; 10/8)
1340R-2?1958braun(rot), ähnlich dem Braun der 1340H  (12/8)

1340R-1b bordeauxrot

3.5. 1340H

Die seltenste der Baldwin-Lokomotiven erschien ebenfalls 1957: die 1340H

Die Lok ist braunrot lackiert mit hell-beigen Längsstreifen.

Ein schwarzes Metallgeländer sichert den ganzen Umlauf. Häufig sind diese Geländer beschädigt, was vermutlich auf das Brünieren zurück zuführen ist.

Varianten sind mir von dieser Lok nicht bekannt. (Stempel 10/8; 15/0)

3.6. 1340F

Als nächstes  Modell der Baldwin-Lokomotiven erschien 1962 die dunkelgrüne Lok mit gelben Längsstreifen in den Farben der SNCF. Die Lok hat ein graues, durchgehendes Geländer am Umlauf und Aufkleber mit der Betriebsnummer 040 DG-1 am Führerhaus und Stirnseite unterhalb der Lampe. Auf Vorhandensein achten!

Varianten

Katalog-Nr.BaujahrBeschreibung
1340F-11962-Zierstreifen am Kühlergitter als Schiebebildchen, selten!
1340F-2Zierstreifen komplett mit Schablone lackiert.
1340F-1

3.7. 1340

Als letzte Baldwin  wurde ab 1963/64 die grau/rote Lokomotive  mit roten Längsstreifen am Kühlergitter und am Rahmen verkauft. Vorbild für diese Farbgebung war die „Santa Fé RR“.

Die farblich sehr gelungene Lokomotive ist fast so selten zu finden wie die 1340H, da sie nur ein Jahr hergestellt wurden.

Varianten sind mir nicht bekannt. (7/3; 10/3)

Im US Flyer von 1963/64 ist die Lok mit der Katalognummer „1340C“ geführt.

Aus US-Katalog 1963/64

Nachtrag:

Mir wurde nun eine Lokomotive vorgelegt, die Bohrungen am Umlauf aufweist. Vermutlich handelt es sich un eine frühe Ausführung, bei der noch Bohrungen für Geländer vorhanden sind:

Zugpackung:

Die Lok wurde in der Zugpackung „340/4“ zusammen mit 4 US-Güterwagen verkauft.

 

3.8. 1340 rot/silbern

Im Katalog 1963/64 ist das Set 340/4 mit einer Baldwin-Lok mit rotem Führerhaus und Fahrgestellrahmen und silbern lackierter Motorhaube abgebildet. Gibt es diese Lok, die nicht einzeln im Katalog angeboten wurde?

Ich kenne keine echte 1340 rot/silbern.

Ich hatte 1996 Gelegenheit, die im Mikado abgebildete Lok eingehend zu überprüfen: sie ist eindeutig umlackiert.

Ich weiß von einigen Lokomotiven, die aus den USA über Holland an Sammler in Deutschland verkauft wurden, dass sie in Amerika umlackiert worden sind.

Vielleicht legt mir ja mal ein Sammler ein echtes Modell vor.

Aus dem Katalog 1963/64

Update:

In den letzten Wochen und Monaten und z.Zt. auch wieder aktuell, werden über eBay Baldwin-Loks angeboten, die nicht immer dem Original entsprachen.

Hier möchte ich speziell auf die Lok in den Farben rot/silber eingehen, über die auch an anderer Stelle bereits ausführlich diskutiert wurde.

In meiner Beschreibung der Baldwin-Lokomotiven habe ich geschrieben, dass ich keine echte dieser Loks kenne.

Ich möchte jetzt noch weiter gehen und behaupten, dass es diese Lok in der Farbe rot/silber nie gegeben hat.

Ausser dem Bild eines Güterzug mit dieser Lok im Katalog 1963/64 gibt es keinerlei Hinweis auf die Existenz einer solchen Lok.

I’m sure I know almost all collectors who have large Fleischmann collections, both in Germany and especially in the USA, where the Balwin locomotives were bought particularly frequently. None of these collectors has or knows an original locomotive.

In the Fleischmann archive there was and is neither a model locomotive nor a specimen copy.

Nothing was easier than repainting this locomotive without decorative stripes and lettering.

It also surprises me when people claim that this locomotive exists without having a specimen copy.

I am also happy to be convinced that my assertion is incorrect.

08.06.2020

Thanks for collaboration to:

Michael Barnickel, Oberasbach,

Heinz Gingter, Haan

dr Harald Fricke, Detmold

Last edit: 08.06.2020